Guillotine Dream is a UK-based three-piece who specialise in
old school 80’s-influenced gothic rock, with guttural vocals, ‘proper’ drums
and booming basslines that hark back to the days when the likes of The Sisters
of Mercy and Fields of the Nephilim caused a temporary blip in the long-term
decline in hat sales. Whilst bands like Type O Negative, Moonspell and Sweet Ermengarde
kept the flickering flame alive in the intervening years, a new wave of bands
like Sonsombre, The Kentucky Vampires and The Black Capes have jolted the genre
back into full-scale reanimation, with Guillotine Dream amongst those leading
the charge in the movement’s birthplace, the UK.
The band’s new album Damaged and Damned is now
available on “stream-before-you-pre-order” trial on Bandcamp, with a
self-released CD version to follow after the current pandemic crisis saw the
cancellation of the planned summer release on Secret Sin Records, and is the
follow-up to last year’s well-received EP, Something Shining, Something
Bright. The teaser track Vermillion from the new set got rave
reviews in the online global goth community on its release on YouTube earlier this month, and the album certainly doesn’t disappoint, offering up a variety of
powerful tracks which never stray from gothic rock into gothic metal, one of
the traditional pitfalls of the genre, and which have a deliberately slightly
raw and muddy production to retain the excitement of live performance.
Damaged and Damned begins with a punchy statement of
intent, Like Every Other Ghost, which features the “ringing” guitar tone
of the last EP Something Shining, Something Bright in an up-tempo
opening which begins with a galloping bass and rolling drum patterns underpinning
a song vaguely reminiscent of Laura-era Fields of the Nephilim in tone, with
Arc’s vocal firmly in the whispered bellowing style initially made famous by
Carl McCoy. Immediately though, the band’s increased sophistication is revealed
in the subtlety of a multi-layered middle section before the song reaches a
suitable finale.
The Nephilim influence is even more apparent in the album’s
title track which follows and which evokes the Stevenage band’s Phobia, which
was itself in turn based on Motorhead’s Ace of Spades. The scuzzier
descending bassline here is definitely more in tune with Lemmy’s band’s earlier
recordings though, and gives a clear indication of the forceful nature of the
group’s all-too-rare live performances.
The more melodic guitar tone is back on the epic Hidden
Rooms, which is subdivided into two parts either side of another track, Ashes.
Hidden Rooms I is classic mid-tempo gothic rock with a spacey texture,
Arc’s vocal again mixed slightly low to add to the air of mystery, whilst (as
on several tracks on the album) some of the guitar part sounds almost like a
live-in-the-studio jam over a solid rhythm section. Hidden Rooms II is
initially a slower crepuscular delight, building the tension slowly until the
pace gradually increases, not unlike in the Nephs’ Last Exit For The Lost.
Ashes is more angular, having the kind of more tribal
drumming and Banshees-esque two-chord progression associated with deathrock,
and its powerful, more rudimentary charm will hopefully help to open up new
markets for the band particularly on the other side of the Atlantic where this
genre is particularly appreciated and where Christian Death still cast a long,
dark shadow...
The second Hidden Rooms introduces a more
introspective section of the album, with Detoxed featuring a slightly
cleaner vocal, showcasing Mapk’s uplifting lyric expressing the resolve and hope of
a life freed from the clutches of alcohol, over a slightly plaintive musical
background. Landslide is probably the most musically innovative track on
the album, featuring inverted riffs and syncopated rhythms in the main verse
sections, followed by a more regular beat in the chorus initially, before the
two combine in the climax of one of the most refreshing tracks on the album.
The final trilogy of tracks up the stakes further, with a church
organ adding to the spooky atmosphere of the opening of Leave Me Here,
another slow-burning song with a FOTN feel, this time bringing to mind the
classic At The Gates of Silent Memory – in fact the lyric “At the Gates”
features prominently in the most dramatic section of the song. Again, the
subtlety involved in the song’s construction is apparent as it moves through
different textures and sections, and the band again show restraint in the
opening section of the genuinely disturbing The Haunted Generation where
the echoing string-bending guitars blend perfectly with a graveyard vocal in a
journey through “the shadow of fear”, creating the perfect setting for the
album’s piece de resistance and closing track Vermillion.
Every great goth album has a really bombastic closing track
– Some Kind Of Stranger on First and Last and Always, Can’t Lose You on Bloody
Kisses, Mercury on Blood or Dawnrazor on, erm, Dawnrazor – and Guillotine Dream
subconsciously use the latter as a template of their own meisterwerk, with
Vermillion featuring a vaguely familiar drum pattern, a shroud tense-as-tripwire
suspended guitar and an anguished vampiric vocal to bring what has been a very
satisfying album to a truly epic conclusion.
Singer and guitarist Arc recently told me in an interview,
“It contains lots of the things we love about goth, but with a rawer, punkier
edge this time,” and repeated playings of the album certainly confirm both
aspects of the statement. Damaged and Damned is available here and is highly
recommended to fans of no-nonsense old-fashioned guitar-driven gothic rock. The
CD costs a mere £10 with a paltry £2 p&p within the UK.
Turkish band She Past Away has
been credited with being the catalyst for the revival of the post-punk/goth/darkwave
scene in the 2010’s, with a distinctive sound that appeals as much to older fans
reconnecting to the scene through the wonders of social media as to word-of-mouth
trendy young basement alternative club movers and shakers. Having spaced their opening trilogy of albums
in an Olympian manner, with Belirdi
Gece (recorded in
2011), followed by Narin Yalnızlık (released in 2015) and then Disko
Anksiyete (2019), the duo are back on the scene more quickly than expected to celebrate their tenth anniversary,
albeit with a remix album (X), which although covering tracks
dating back to initial EP Kasvetli Kutlama (2010), nevertheless
continues the more deliberately dancefloor-oriented direction of their most
recent album.
Having
aired my ambivalent views on the whole concept of the remix album at some
length in this blog’s recent review of the Antipole release Perspectives II,
I must say at the outset that this double album is one of the best examples of
the genre which I have heard, with most tracks not only instantly recognisable
but also enhanced and updated by the remixers.
This is
almost certainly entirely due to the breadth and sheer quality of the remixers
involved, a veritable “who’s who?” of the darkwave scene of the last forty (although particularly the last five) years,
ranging from wave veterans Clan of Xymox and Front 242 to the likes of Kill Shelter
and Ash Code.
The
tone is set from the opening track, The Soft Moon’s remix of Ritüel
which features his usual disconcerting pitch-bending bass-heavy dubstep-inspired
brilliance, with Volker Caner’s now-isloated vocal adding to the song’s sense
of emotional claustrophobia. Vancouver-based remixer FM Attack’s take on
SPA’s iconic Asimilasyon respects the classic melody and reverberating
charm of the original, whilst opting for a more plinky-plonky (apologies to any
laymen for my use of technical language) keyboard approach, emphasising its
dancefloor appeal.
The
first real surprise of the album is Deer Dear’s version of Ruh,
which is rightly listed as a cover rather than a remix, with the duo adding a new
French language vocal to a more distorted backing, with the repeated chorus “Je
reviendrai” prominent in a very successful marriage of the new and the old.
Boy Harsher’s Durdu Dünya and Tobias Bernstrup’s
Kasvetli Kutlama are more straightforward dancefloor-oriented remixes (and
therefore to me personally, less interesting), the former darker and more
regimented than the original, the latter a light disco synthwave interpretation.
The following track is one of two equally straight extended remixes of tracks
from Disko Anksiyete by DJ Fn1, the first the title track, and
the second La Maldad, which add disco beats and beeps to what are
essentially largely the original tracks.
Only
seven tracks in and we already have our first repeat, with Ruh now
remixed by Bragolin, the Dutch act successfully introducing their own trademark
slightly distorted staccato guitar style to the mix, resulting in a less-polished,
more low-fi but still "full" production which retains the original’s twists and
turns with aplomb. Next up is the first of two remixes by SPA themselves, with La
Maldad’s Alan Vega-esque guitar lines replaced by sequenced keyboards for
the dancefloor, whilst later in the set we are treated to a more minimalist
take on the second album’s title track which allows Caner’s beautifully
reverberated guitar line to shine through.
Approaching
the middle of the twenty-two track album the big names arrive thick and fast,
with a pleasingly stark take on Izole from Lebanon Hanover followed
by French post-punk act RENDEZ VOUS’s disappointingly ambient remix of Disko
Anksiyete and a Front 242 remix of Kasvetli Kutlama which reduces
the powerful charm of the original tune in a 90’s remix of bleeps and whirrs.
Having
dipped significantly after a promising start, the album is salvaged by some further excellent
celebrity remixes, with Clan of Xymox’s Ronny Moorings sensibly
retaining the guitar line in Sanri whilst enhancing the original with
some “Da Da Da” style old school bleeps and a more solid bassline, with
bandmate Mario Usai submitting a superb remix of Hayaller which
is X’s penultimate cut, turning the pleasant but rather spartan
original into a full-on 80’s-style old school goth slow-burner with a modern
twist.
Album
highlight Kill Shelter’s remix of Soluk is even better adding a
flanged riff reminiscent of The Sisters of Mercy and slowing down the original
backbeat at times to produce a wall-of-sound version that is suitably deeper
and darker but crucially also more danceable. Sonbahar from SPA’s most
recent album already had an Antipole feel, and the Norwegian artist and
his usual collaborator Paris Alexander accentuate the bouncing nature of
the original guitar riff and gives the track a more relaxed feel.
Italian
wave act Ash Code also distinguish themselves, giving Katarsis the
full Moroder sequencer treatment, with a strong synth bassline whilst successfully
retaining both the melody and atmosphere of the original, and Kasvetli
Kutlama (making its third appearance) also gets a discofied bassline in New
York DJ Martial Canterel’s interestingly angular remix, whilst Sun’s Spectrum
also add an extra electronic impetus to flesh out a sparse Monoton,
which now starts with a delightfully scuzzy bass riff.
Greek
post-punk band Selofan add one of the album’s most delightful surprises with
a dark remix of Renksiz, one of the last album’s lighter moments,
beefing it up with an enhanced atmospheric bassline, stronger beat and extra keyboard
layers, and the album ends strongly with QUAL’s remix of Boşluk,
the Lebanon Hanover star bringing the Nephilimistic guitar riff of Disko
Anksiyete’s instrumental opener to the start of a very extended version
before introducing a more typically harsh metronomic backbeat as the song heads off in a more electro direction.
As well
as restoring She Past Away’s reputation after the lukewarm reaction to their last album in the darkwave
community, the differing styles of the various remixes on Xwill hopefully
help to carry the band (and the genre)’s music beyond the straitjacket of the
slowly-growing post-punk ghetto to the more mainstream audience which would
surely appreciate their well-written and easy-on-the-ear style.
On an
equally positive note, the album has already sold out its vinyl limited edition
and only a handful of CDs remain via their Bandcamp page.
Where is the epicentre of goth culture? Where did the
flickering flame first ignite, to be carried across the globe by the early
disciples? Some would suggest that the (then) industrial city of Leeds in the UK, from
which The Sisters of Mercy rose and reverberated in the early 1980’s is the
true spiritual home of goth, whilst others would trace the culture all the way
back to Vlad the Impaler in ancient Transylvania, allegedly the inspiration for Bram Stoker's Dracula.
Whichever school of thought you subscribe to, the impressive
new album Cu Foc ( “with fire” in Romanian) by Leeds’ foremost current goth
act Byronic Sex & Exile therefore comes with an impeccable goth pedigree,
and is a suitably grandiose project, including a three-part song cycle based on
translated Romanian poetry of the gothic tradition.
Byronic Sex & Exile (BS&E) is the latest project by
Leeds’ very own “Mr Goth”, Joel Heyes, the brainchild of the Goth City events
which have successfully added roots, gravitas and renown to the city’s rightful
claim to be the musical birthplace of the enduring genre, exposing the sad reality
of what in my view have been the occasional half-hearted attempts by the city’s official institutions to
capitalise on its global cult reputation.
Cu Foc has the makings of a fascinating cultural
project worthy of study, one might think, but musically the album is a very strong
contender in its own right. Stunning album closer Eternity sees Heyes
channelling vintage Peter Murphy over a classic acoustic descending riff,
whilst Your Name On The Wind (which also featured on the Opera from
the Wastes EP) is zeitgeist-grabbing up-beat coldwave dark twang, with
another plaintive Heyes vocal. The album’s focal point however is the
three-part song cycle, Luceafărul with Heyes in best Nick Cave
lounge lizard form over a melancholic but undeniably gothic piano motif at the
beginning of Part I before it develops into a more cinematic Pink Floydesque
guitar and synth soundscape. Part II is up at 160BPM, before Part III with its
more subdued tempo completes the cycle. Of the other standout tracks, album
opener Cu Foc I possesses a Bunnymenesque brooding intensity, whilst Timisoara
Eyes boasts a classic goth guitar intro and Nosferatu In Furs
continues the album’s eclectic style with the charm of an off-beat Berlin
waltz.
Although clearly a man not afraid to don a frilly white
shirt or post a smouldering selfie, the dandyish Heyes skilfully pitches the
project with self-deprecating wit, using the same dry humour evident in his
YouTube A Goth Guide to Leeds in describing BS&E as “romantic
byro-goth for the discerning aristocratic rebel”, and crucially avoiding the ridiculous
self-important pomposity of, say, Merciful Nuns. This album also introduces a
Western audience to poets whose work had previously been inaccessible for
reasons of language, and explores aspects of Transylvanian culture which go
beyond Dracula stereotypes, a concept which Heyes hopes to explore further in
his forthcoming Ph.D. project, which he is currently crowd-funding.
Frustrated like all acts by their inability to perform the
new songs live for the time being, this Friday (22nd May) at 8 p.m. (UK
time), BS&E will be live streaming a show from “the relative comfort of
their gothic crypt”, presenting some of the songs from Cu Foc in torch
song cabaret style, with donations encouraged to the Leeds refugee charity PAFRAS for
which he has already raised huge sums of money through previous gothic ventures.
In the words of the man himself, “Put on your best cape, grab a goblet of wine
and sit back for a decadent session of True Kult Gothery”!
1. You’ve previously been involved in more industrial punky
projects like Action Directe or full-on dark “goff” rock like Quasimodo before
starting up BS&E about four years ago. Did you just feel the need to do
something a little more brooding and atmospheric?
Joel Heyes: First off, thank you very much for the
interview! I guess this all started back when I decided in 2011, shortly before
Action Directe split up for the second time, that they weren’t going to be my
main project anymore. Up until that point AD had been the sole depository for
all my writing (for good or ill!) and at that point I decided to work on many
different, specific musical projects instead. Quasimodo were very much the
first and most successful of these, but there were also I Demand Satisfaction,
Carpathian Love Gods, Electroslav, Viet Bong, and Byronic Sex & Exile was
very much conceived as one of those projects. Having done one E.P on 2015 I
assumed that would be it, but it was only in 2017 that I began to see the
potential of a project that could reconnect goth to it’s cultural &
political roots, so that’s when things really took off with BS&E.
2. Who were your musical influences for BS&E in general
and this new album in particular?
Joel Heyes: Although I didn’t realise it at the time,
BS&E is very much influenced by overt ’90 gothic rock – London After
Midnight, Horatii, Nosferatu, Rosetta Stone – as well as proto-goth influences
such as Bowie, Iggy Pop, Diamanda Galas. The Damned and Lords of the New Church
are probably the two big influences for everything really. In terms of the
album, musically I was trying to broaden the pallet so there’s some Dead Can
Dance and Carpathian folk & classical in there too.
3. The “dandy” end of goth can seem a little po-faced and self-important at times, yet you use humour whenever talking about BS&E,
for example describing the project as “romantic Byro-goth for the discerning
aristocratic rebel”. Do you think that it’s important to keep things
tongue-in-cheek?
Joel Heyes: It’s important to have a sense of humour
about whatever you do, because you’re meant to be having fun. One of the great
paradoxes about the goth scene and in fact any alternative subculture is that
the people most opposed to seeming po-faced are the ones who are very
humourless about it – people really go a long way not to appear sincere, and
get very annoyed at anyone who is. BS&E show that even if you are deadly
serious about poetry & politics that you can still have more fun with it
than those acts who are intent on not being ‘pretentious’. Self-consciousness
really is the UK goth disease.
4. The new album Cu Foc has a Romanian title and several
songs are based on Romanian poetry. Was it through the Dracula story that your
interest in that country developed?
Joel Heyes:Obviously vampire culture is the
gateway to an interest in Transylvania, but I’d been a longtime student of
Romanian politics (I did my MA dissertation on it) so it’s been a longstanding
interest. In a way, the Dracula element is probably the least interesting thing
about the place for me these days. The first rough mix of Cu Foc had
loads of vampire film samples, and in the end I ditched them all before the
final mix because I didn’t want people to see this as another bog-standard
Dracula tribute – it got in the way of the essence of the thing.
5. Was your aim in basing the lyrics on these poems to bring
Romanian poets to a Western audience or did they just seem like potential
lyrics when you read them?
Joel Heyes: I think in the same way as ‘Gothism’ (the
first album) it was about reconnecting the concept to its true energy – the
creative source. So I wanted to look behind the Dracula stuff to the real
gothic heart of Carpathian culture, as even without the vampire stuff
Transylvania is an incredibly interesting and creative place. The poems and
ideas from Romania that are on the album are really about bringing out the real
gothic elements of Carpathian culture to a wider audience. Why Eminescu isn’t
as popular as Poe or Stoker amongst a western goth audience, I’ll never know.
6. You’re planning to base your Ph. D thesis on Dark Tourism
in Romania. Can we expect further Carpathian influence on BS&E in the
future?
Joel Heyes: Probably not, as I like each album and
project to be a distinct entity – for me, creative projects have a shelf life
of about 18 months and then I start to look at the next one. So although I’d
like to showcase the Cu Foc live show at least once later in the year,
it’s not a project I’m planning on living in for much longer – although I am
considering an album of remixes & reworkings from Cu Foc, as there’s
a lot of life in these tracks yet.
7. Apart from for the band, you’re also well-known as the
organiser of the annual Goth City Festival/Event in Leeds, and you’ve recently
announced a change to holding it in the summer in future to avoid other
high-profile events in the region such as Infest and the various Whitby events.
How big do you think that the Leeds event could become in the future – the
British equivalent of WGT for example?
Joel Heyes: Leeds is the biggest city in the UK to hold a
regular goth festival, and it’s clear that we have the venues, transport links,
cultural legacy, local scene and accommodation to make a larger event
successful. So if it’s going to work anywhere, it’s here. But the challenge is
to build it on a sustainable, non-profit basis – we’ve raised £10,000 for our
preferred charity at Goth City in four years, and we want that to be the
benchmark for what we do. If HyperGlobalMegCorp come in to exploit the
commercial potential it’d be a disaster for the UK scene, so it’s a matter of
steadily building.
In terms of the summer move, we have no summer goth
festival in the UK in June/July, and the Aug-October calendar for goth events
is too congested. This way we can use many of the great outdoor venues in
Leeds, which we can’t do in the winter.
8. You did a video tour of goth Leeds on YouTube last year
that went down well. Thinking of your Ph D topic, do you think goth tourism
could be a major contributor to the local economy? Do you think that Leeds as a
city currently does enough to capitalise on its goth musical heritage?
Joel Heyes: Leeds is only just beginning to wake up to
this – we’ve done a lot of work with our colleagues at Leeds Festival of
Gothica to create a goth heritage network from scratch, and local tourism
bodies have started to engage with us on it. So potentially yes, very much so.
But the main issue was how Leeds goth sees itself – when I began Goth City I
was told point blank that a goth festival would never work in Leeds, and a lot
of people feel ownership of the culture and legacy of the scene here, so it’s
never been easy. There are dozens of different interest groups pulling in
different directions, so as yet there isn’t one voice we all speak in. We want
to celebrate Leeds’ goth legacy, but as a living culture and not a retro
activity.
9. How would you describe the strength of the scene in the
city at the moment (pre-lockdown, obviously!)?
Joel Heyes: It’s probably never been heathier in decades
– bearing in mind we have Goth City, Leeds Festival of Gothica, Carpe Noctum
which is the largest regular goth club night in Britain, Absinthe Promotions
who are now running Tomorrow’s Ghosts at Whitby, Bunker 13 who cater for the
EBM end, not to mention in Yorkshire generally we have Infest, Night Shift,
Shadow of the Castle. This is as good as it gets, really.
10. Having had to cancel your live shows to promote Cu Foc,
you’re hosting a live event on Friday 22nd raising funds for PAFRAS. Can you
share a few more details about what can we expect?
Joel Heyes: I’m trying to see what is possible in a
performance setting from my home in Leeds during lockdown, so this will be a
test to see what I can do – expect a lot of the tracks from Cu Foc that
I can perform in a stripped-down, torch song format. I hope to start doing
regular, one-off shows around new concepts every month during lockdown if it
goes well, although nothing replaces actually being on stage.
UK goth act Guillotine Dream are back with a new album in the
pipeline entitled Damaged and Damned, to be released later this summer
by Secret Sin Records, following on from their impressive 2019 EP for the same
label, Something Shining, Something Bright. Having also previously
recorded for Oskar Terramortis’ ground-breaking Gothic Rock label, the bemasked trio are at the forefront of the current revival of interest in old school
80’s-influenced guitar-driven goth.
As a teaser for the forthcoming LP, Guillotine Dream this
week released a chilling video featuring the album's closing epic, Vermillion,
a real slow burner of a track which harks back to the bombasticearly days of Fields of the Nephilim, with a
full two-minute instrumental build-up before vocalist Arc begins to intone a vampiric lyric ("Look at those blood-red beautiful lips!") in a suitably chilling voice over an extended, detuned and
powerful jam solidly underpinned by powerful Dawnrazor-esque drumming
from sticksman Mapk. Lake’s buzzing bass and Arc’s tense-as-tripwire guitar
slashes hanging like dense sheets of freezing fog complete a multi-layered
aural assault that ensnares the listener in a tale of bloodlust, with some
well-edited mildly disturbing horror movie visual tropes as an
accompaniment on the video. Sonsombre's Brandon Pybus was one of many contemporaries duly impressed, succinctly commenting "They have a wonderfully dark sound. They never disappoint".
Having followed Guillotine Dream’s progress since first
becoming enamoured with the up-tempo track Signs (think Trees Come
Down meets In The Flat Field) from their debut EP Lemuria
four years ago, the new song represents a further refining of their brooding,
evocative sound and the album seems set to catapult them to the forefront of a UK goth scene which retained a niche presence during the global gothic slump of the first decade and a half of the new millennium thanks to the Whitby festivals and the consistent excellence of bands like
Grooving Green, The Last Cry, NFD and more recently October Burns Black and Sometime
The Wolf, to name but five acts.
I was therefore pleased when Guillotine Dream’s main man Arc
agreed to an interview (but also felt some slight trepidation having read his not entirely serious discussionwith Absolution and the "Goth Tinder" humour of Primitive's video), and subsequently
delighted when he gave such full and interesting answers to some fairly
predictable questions!
1. You’ve
been in bands for the past thirty years or so, mainly on the death metal scene
(and some of which are also still active) like many artists of the current wave
of goth bands (eg Sonsombre). What for you are the similarities between the two
genres, and do you find that certain elements of death metal survive in your
Guillotine Dream compositions?
Arc: Yes possibly. The energy is similar. I have
deliberately stayed away from using a distorted sound on most songs for GD.
Overdrive all the way. We are happy to shove in a growl or some double bends
occasionally but keep away from anything too metal. I did (and still do) play
death/doom metal so we don't want GD to be a metal band. Songs are much easier
to create with GD and have a very free feel to them. The lyrics are also very
enjoyable to write without the usual rigorous self-analysis and soul searching
that comes with writing in My Silent Wake. I play in MSW with Lake and three
other friends. Mapk was once a member of the band. Another old MSW member, Ash
plays some gigs with us on second guitar. Both bands are enjoyable for
different reasons. Plenty of metal bands such as Paradise Lost and In The Woods
were goth influenced. The band Celtic Frost had a very experimental and dark
edge to them which influenced so many and annoyed a few closed-minded
individuals.
GD was formed for our own enjoyment and to fulfil the
desire to play fairly traditional gothic rock, which we all enjoy immensely.
Since around 2010 I had had some experience playing with my friend Martin Bowes
in Attrition. I contributed guitar to The Unraveller album and Gary
Gilmore's Eyes EP and played a few gigs. This was such a departure from
playing thrash or doom and a completely different way of playing the guitar and
I loved it.
I was in a goth band around 1990 with my friend Danny
called Children of Power which had members of my thrash band Seventh Angel and
another friend. Sadly, we only did one gig and split. In the end, many years
later Danny recorded one of the songs with his band Zonei. Since then I have
had a hankering to play trad goth again!
2. Your
initial EP release Lemuria got very positive reviews and saw you sign
with Gothic Rock records for your first full album release, incorporating many
of the EP’s tracks. Was the aim mainly to get your music to a more worldwide
audience?
Arc: The EP tracks we used on the album were re-recorded
so both versions could be enjoyed. Lemuria and Signs were
extended and Darkling Rooms has a number of differences too. The aim was
to be able to sustain regular recording sessions without having to plough any
more of our own money in!
Of course we want more people to hear our music but we do
it primarily for ourselves. It was a shame that the album was released just as
Oskar was finishing the label. It had no real promotion.
3. Many
reviews of the early releases pointed out a similarity to Fields of the
Nephilim. Were they an influence? Which other goth bands did you listen to when
you first got into the genre?
Arc: Of course they were a huge influence! We all love
them. The atmosphere they create is wonderful. For me my other major
goth/alt/punk influences are Sisters, Bauhaus, The Damned, The Cult, New Model
Army, Dead Can Dance, Faith and The Muse, Type O, NFD, And Also the Trees, The
Mission, Rosetta Stone, Joy Division etc etc. I have always been a fan of goth
and alternative as well as metal, classic rock and folk. Recently I discovered
the music of The Blue Angel Lounge which I adore. My first few singles as a kid
were Adam and The Ants, Saxon, Rush, Maiden and Bauhaus. Bowie's Ashes to Ashes
and Talking Heads - Once in a Lifetime were also real eye openers at the time.
I must mention U2 as well.
I don't see
alternative styles as that different from each other in spirit and it's good to
see more open-mindedness since the days I was growing up and the restrictive
camps of punks, rockers, mods, teds. I still remember a school friend being
appalled at me at about the age of twelve for liking Saxon as well as Adam and
the Ants. If you love music an open mind is the best way. We all stand together
against the mainstream shit. The useless crap on the radio masquerading as
music these days sickens me. I grew up with Visage, Ultravox, Maiden,
Motorhead, Priest, Bauhaus all entering the charts and all sounding incredible.
4. You did a
cover of The Sisters of Mercy’s Marian on the last EP, your first for
Secret Sin Records. Why did you choose that particular song?
Arc: We had been covering it live and are all big fans of
this song. I think it was an ambition especially for Mapk to cover this. We
haven't covered many songs in GD. We did play Celebrate at our first gig
and also covered a My Silent Wake song which is strongly goth influenced.
5. For Marian,
your more traditional “growled” vocal was more of a croon. Was that just
because the Eldritch vocal line lent itself to that style, or are you looking
at branching out in terms of your vocal style?
Arc: Actually Mapk sings lead vox on this song! This is
the only song like this. He sings backing vocals on other songs.
6. For the
first Secret Sin EP, Something Shining, Something Bright, your guitar
sound certainly had a shinier, brighter almost ringing tone to it, especially
on songs like Three O’Clock and Creatures See, Is that something
which will be carried over to the new LP?
Arc: Yes it has been pretty much. I haven't actually
changed the tone much since we started but maybe added a little more gain etc.
The sound on Wych ElmBella was different due to my amp being a
bastard on the day of recording that song. I think I used a Mesa boogie
instead. Generally my trusty Vox/Schecter combination has worked well.
7. The first
track released as a teaser for the new LP, Vermillion, is a real
slow-burning epic, like a stoner doom version of Dawnrazor. Are you
aiming for a more epic, bombastic style of sound this time around?
Arc: I suppose it is similar in tone to Dead Genius
on the debut. There is a lot of variety in tempos on this album again. It
contains lots of the things we love about goth, but with a rawer, punkier edge
this time. The recording was done in two days. When we went in, one song was
just one small part and another was written from scratch during this time. The
others were very roughly arranged. Pretty much everything was first take and
the mixing had to be done without us being there. Some parts are very
improvised and experimental but it all seems to work.
("Look at those coated beautiful Rings!")
8. The video
that accompanies Vermillion is very chilling, and very removed from the
“Party Rings” humour of the video that accompanied Primitive for
example. Is that an indication that you’re taking Guillotine Dream more
seriously as a project?
Arc: My girlfriend Sarah and I made it a few days ago for
fun and it turned out very well. It was filmed and edited on my mobile and was
done just behind where we live in the Welsh countryside. An element of the band
has always been humour and disinformation or at least something a bit tongue-in-cheek,
as it adds to the enjoyment and creates a bit of much-needed chaos. The band
began life in a shop window in Stafford, believe it or not! A music shop had
electric drums and amps set up and we couldn't resist. We aren't young and
haven't/won't/don't want to, make any money from this so why take things too
seriously at the risk of spoiling the chaos which is GD? This is the first straight interview I have
given tbh! We just make it up as we go along, a bit like our music!
9. The band’s
image – name, appearance, logo, album covers, videos - seems to be based on
horror movie tropes. Is that an interest which you all share?
Arc: Of course! I am a fan of Hammer and the like and the
more cerebral or supernatural side of things. I have a fascination with all
things Fortean as well which has inspired many of the songs including Man ov
Fyre, Number 16 and Lemuria. Mapk likes his gritty, gory
stuff. Not sure if I have ever discussed this extensively with Lake.
10. So far
you’ve only played some relatively low-key gigs. When the current lockdown
ends, do you intend to tour Guillotine Dream a bit further afield, as you’ve
done with some of your other projects?
Arc: If we get offered anything and our lives and health
permit it, we will do at least a few gigs.
Then Comes Silence don’t do things by halves. Rightly regarded
by commentators as disparate as The 69 Eyes’ vocalist Jyrki and veteran Leeds
goth DJ Mark M as the best new goth/post-punk act of the twenty-first century,
the Swedish band has already delivered probably the best trilogy of albums
since The Cure’s dark masterpieces of the very early 1980’s with Nyctophilian
(2015), Blood (2017) and Machine (2020). Their recent
contribution to the Gothicat Online Festival, a quarantine cover of Siouxsie
and The Banshees’ Christine, was widely considered to be by far the best
on the night, and when they announced a live stream concert of their own for
Thursday 14th May, it was clear that this was not going to be a
half-hearted affair.
Renting one of Stockholm’s most atmospheric clubs (Hus 7) as
the venue, and with stage lighting and a professional camera crew orchestrated
by Damon Zurawski, who produced the stunning video of their last single Apocalypse Flare, Then Comes Silence set a new standard for other musicians to follow
in what may be an extended period when normal touring is not possible, creating
the illusion of a live club performance in the comfort of the viewers’ own
living rooms, and transporting me personally back ten months to the night when
I saw them on top form in a cellar bar in Edinburgh.
The band made the gig even more inclusive for fans by allowing them to vote for the setlist via an online poll on their Facebook fan club, with the top twelve songs selected for the show. In the end, Ritual was
excluded from the gig (presumably because of the unavailability of True Moon’s
Karolina Engedahl who duets on the album version) but otherwise all the fans’
favourites were played in a well-paced show covering the last three albums,
beginning with the opening track from Blood, The Dead Cry For No-One.
What was immediately apparent was the sheer quality of the sound production,
which was as sharp as at any gig I have attended in the past forty years: Jonas
Fransson’s drumming underpins the whole live experience, and the value of the
human drummer over a machine was demonstrated on several occasions, for example
when there was a false start to the band’s best known track (measured by YouTube
views), Strangers from Nyctophilian, and in songs like The
Rest Will Follow, where twin guitarists Mattias Ruejas Jonson and Hugo Zombie
have licence to show their flair. The latest recruits to the band, Jonson and
Zombie are a dream partnership of opposites, the former impressing with his
precision and extensive use of a bewildering array of pedal effects, whilst the
latter the band’s visual focus, a whirling dervish in perpetual motion reacting
to the moment in the best tradition of alternative rock’n’roll.
The clear focal point of the band is centre stage however,
with panda-eyed founder member, singer and bassist Alex Svenson dominating the
show with his lugubrious baritone croon and magnetic charisma, dramatically raising
his bass to a vertical position at crucial points in the more up-tempo songs
like Flashing Pangs of Love and She Loves The Night. The brooding
Good Friday, Svenson’s emotional farewell to his dying father, the punky
Strange Kicks, the dramatic Dark End and the band’s cinematic signature
tune W.O.O.O.U. from the new album were other highlights in a triumphant
main set that ended with a wonderful rendition of the epic Kill It, with
Fransson and his illuminated drumkit lost in a sea of dry ice whilst Ruejas Jonson
successfully replicated the six string alchemy of the version on Machine.
After a suitable gap mirroring the pause in a gig, with frantic demands for an
encore raining in on the comments from fans on the YouTube live stream, Svenson
lead the band back on stage for a further two numbers, ending with a celebratory
romp through Animals, always a live favourite.
With this exquisitely filmed virtual gig, Then Comes Silence have reinforced their
position at the very forefront of the current goth/post-punk revival and set a
new standard for live stream shows, matching the consistently high standard of
their studio work, and exhibiting both a professionalism and a musicality
(combining melody, power and atmosphere) worthy of a huge mainstream following
to go with their current cult fanbase of like-minded cognoscenti. Any promoters
dropping in on this stellar show will surely have pencilled the band in at the top of
their festival wishlist for the time when live gigs ultimately recommence, but for the time
being the Swedes have served up a wonderful boost for the mental and emotional
well-being of their adoring fanbase, who were encouraged to contribute to the
significant cost of staging the event either by direct donation or via the virtual merch table.
Sweden’s Then Comes Silence seem to have been one of the few bands who have
been as active during the pandemic as they were before, albeit in a more remote
manner. Not only did they post two quarantine cover versions online (All Tomorrow’s Parties and Christine), but they have been involved in
various remixes (Wisborgremixing their own last singleApocalypse Flare and
TCS frontman Alex Svenson remixing the likes of The Foreign Resort and Wisborg
as well as producing two tracks on the new EP from aux animaux ).
The undisputed highlight though has been the announcement of a Then Comes
Silence live stream this coming Thursday (14th May) at 8 p.m. UK time, 9 p.m. CET, with
the setlist of twelve tracks chosen by members of their Facebook fan group.
Hopefully this live broadcast (link here) from Stockholm’s Hus7 venue will help to finally bring
the band to the wider audience which their music deserves, and those who have
yet to witness TCS in concert are in for a treat.
Over the past two months on this blog we have individually interviewed the
band members in the order which they joined the band, starting with founder
member Alex, then drummer Jonas, followed by Mattias – and today I am delighted
to say that we are completing the set with Hugo, who first filled in on some
dates in the latter part of 2018.
(Hugo Zombie [left] on stage with Then Comes SIlence, Edinburgh July 2019 pic: NVL)
Many TCS fans were/are unaware that the new guitarist (whose permanent
recruitment was announced shortly after that initial trial stint) was in fact
already one of the most revered on the global deathrock/goth scene, having
spent almost the entirety of the previous two decades with seminal Spanish
outfits Naughty Zombies and then Los Carniceros del Norte, the Basque horror
punks who are legendary figures on the alternative scene in the hispanophone
world, although barely known in the more traditionally inward-looking
English-speaking markets of the US and UK.
Zac Campbell, guitarist of leading US goth outfit The Kentucky Vampires,
rates Hugo Zombie as “one of the biggest inspirations” in his career, and told
me about the adulation he witnessed the one time he was fortunate to see Los
Carniceros del Norte live, at a show in Mexico City (which was filmed and later
released on the “Live In Mexico” DVD). "The venue was over capacity for sure and it was the craziest show I've ever been to. The crowd were going crazy for them, and it reminded me of the old videos you see of the public reaction to The Beatles. I wanted to meet the band after the show but it was so crazy we just ended up leaving." With LCDN
records difficult to obtain outwith Spain, it has taken Campbell years of
painstaking research to proudly assemble a full collection of the band’s
releases.
Hugo Zombie was not only guitarist but also the chief songwriter and
producer for Los Carniceros del Norte (The Butchers from The North), and he
also found time for side projects, whether as a journalist (writing about his
visits to WGT and even interviewing Then Comes Silence after his initial
temporary guest slot with the band!) or as musician, using the name H. Zombie
for his solo work (which often involved familiar collaborators).
He has recently made these projects available from Bandcamp, and I would
particularly recommend the 2013 Deathrock is Dead EP, described by that
oracle amongst goth commentators, Mick Mercer, as “a monstrously beautiful
juggernaut” upon release, adding “I like noise when accompanied by artistry,
and few people in the world better exhibit the alchemical ability to blend
these two aspects than young H. Zombie.”
Not only did Hugo Zombie bring this musical expertise, experience and ability
to Then Comes Silence when he joined, he has also significantly enhanced the
band’s visual profile. Too many of the young bands and artists my own kids go
to see these days amble on stage in a cardigan and jeans, whereas I’ve always
wanted my rock stars to look like rock stars, and Hugo certainly doesn’t
disappoint in that regard: with his make-up, leather cap and studded belt he
looks like he’s permanently auditioning for a Lords of The New Church tribute band.
Onstage he runs the full gamut of rock guitarist gestures, legs splayed one
minute, jumping up and down and heading back to the monitors the next, the very epitome
of Johnny Thunders-esque cool, and clearly an artist who lives for live shows.
With his fascinating past and interesting present I found it a struggle to stick to just ten questions, and I'd like to thank Hugo for taking the time and trouble to answer my questions so fully.
1. You were in two bands
before Then Comes Silence, Naughty Zombies and then a decade as the main
songwriter and guitarist of Los Carniceros del Norte, a goth-punk deathrock
band which many of the newer bands on the scene cite as an influence. Do you think
that you were just before your time?
Hugo Zombie: I don’t know, but those were good times anyway. When Naughty
Zombies started in early 2000s, there was a lot of great bands in the deathrock
goth-punk scene. Our influences at that time were mainly current bands like
Subtonix, The Vanishing, Lost Sounds, Black Ice, The Phantom Limbs... There was
also Strobelight Records releasing amazing albums and their New Dark Age
Compilations giving visibility to new bands, Drop Dead Festival [originally a US-based deathrock event] came to
Europe... The first DDF European Edition was in 2007 in Prague, and I played
there with both Naughty Zombies and Los Carniceros Del Norte. I kept playing
with both bands for a couple of years, I was very busy, so yeah, I think those
were good times to be doing what we were doing.
Having said that, I’m truly honored to hear that my music could have
influenced newer bands on the scene, and I really hope that it helped to keep
the flame alive too.
2. After Los Carniceros del
Norte split up, you moved to Stockholm from Spain. Were you looking to join a
new band at that point?
Hugo Zombie: I’m a Rock n’ Roll junkie, so yes, absolutely. I was friends
with Jonas before I moved to Stockholm, and almost every time we met, I asked
him the same question: “Hey, do you know if there’s any band in town looking
for a guitar player? I fucking miss playing!”
I had hopes that some day he’d tell me something like “Yeah, I have some
friends who are starting a new band and looking for a guitar player...” which
was also not very likely, because there’s a lot of guitar players around
everywhere. So I was very surprised and really, really happy when Jonas sent me
a message asking me if I wanted to join TCS as substitute for a small tour. I
had enough time to think and realize how much i had missed the stage, so even
if it was only going to be a couple of shows, it sounded like heaven.
3. As I said before, in
your two previous bands you were the driving force, as
guitarist/songwriter/producer. Have you found it hard to adjust to joining what
is effectively someone else’s band?
Hugo Zombie: No, not at all, I’m a team player and I know my role in TCS.
It’s not like being “the driving force” was my choice in previous bands, but
all the band members lived in different towns, and that meant no rehearsal
space, no band jamming together or anything like that. I had some knowledge
about music production software, so my home studio (Zombiestudios) became the
virtual operations center. I wrote songs from scratch, but also my bandmates
sent me melodies, bass lines etc. that i used as pieces to build songs:
sequence drums, add guitars, keyboards, arrangements... then recording, mixing,
mastering... I had to learn how to do it and take care of the whole production
process, but now I can just focus on playing guitar.
I also have a solo project that you can check out on hzombie.bandcamp.com .
I started this in 2008 to release “experiments” that wouldn’t fit in any of my
bands. I even made a Dark Electro / Aggrotech EP just for fun, and surprisingly
it got great reviews in specialized media. So if some day i feel like
writing/producing music again, probably it will be for this.
(Funeral is from H. Zombie's Deathrock Is Dead EP available on Bandcamp)
4. Alex has said that he
worked out the basis of many of the songs on Machine with you. Did you
enjoy writing with someone else?
Hugo Zombie: I think that Alex meant that he wrote the music having me and
my way of playing in mind, because I didn’t actually write anything. That’s not
a problem at all: Alex is an amazing songwriter and he knows better than anyone
how TCS sounds, so I’m more than happy to play whatever he asks me to play.
5. On FB you recently said
that Apocalypse Flare and Cuts Inside were your favourite tracks
on Machine. What about those tracks do you particularly like?
Hugo Zombie: Yes, Apocalypse Flare was one of the first new songs
that I played with TCS when we started to practise together. Good memories. I
liked it very much from the beginning, but it has developed since then and it’s
even better now. Cuts Inside is newer, but I’ve also liked it a lot
since I heard Alex’s demo for the first time. I was mildly upset that it was going
to be one of the outtakes of the album, haha. What I like about those songs are
the strong rhythms and powerful choruses, and a good mixture of energy and
melody.
6. You have a very
distinctive visual style, which is reminiscent of Johnny Thunders, Lords of the
New Church and Hanoi Rocks. Were some of these artists a big influence on you?
Hugo Zombie: Absolutely!!! Johnny Thunders is my guitar hero. Also Brian
James from Lords of The New Church and early The Damned. I’m not the biggest
fan of Hanoi Rocks but Andy McCoy is really cool too! And I would also add as
influences Eduardo Benavente [Parálisis Permanente], Johnny Ramone, Joe
Strummer (I’m a left-hander playing like a right-hander too) [The Clash],
Poison Ivy [The Cramps], East Bay Ray [Dead Kennedys], Rikk Agnew [Christian
Death], Daniel Ash [Bauhaus]... and last but not least the father of them all,
Chuck Berry. As you can see, I appreciate passion and attitude more than
technique.
7. You will have seen the
video released before Blood where Jonas and Alex spoke about which
albums had influenced them. Which records from your own collection would you
have brought to the video shoot if you had joined TCS before rather than after Blood?
Hugo Zombie: I agree completely with the albums they show in the video, but
some of my personal choices could’ve been (to mention a few): Parálisis
Permanente El Acto, The Stooges Funhouse, The Cramps Songs The
Lord Taught Us, The Clash London Calling, Sex Pistols Never Mind
The Bollocks, Lost Sounds Black Wave, Eskorbuto Anti-Todo,
The Beatles Please Please Me, Johnny Thunders and the Heartbreakers L.A.M.F.,
Lords of the New Church Killer Lords,
David Bowie Ziggy Stardust, Stray Cats Stray Cats, The Adicts
Songs Of Praise, Misfits Walk Among Us... and I can’t choose only
one Ramones album, so I would have brought their entire discography.
(Paralisis Permanante, a key band of the post-Franco Madrid "movida" featuring frontman Eduardo Benavente, who was tragically killed in a car crash several months after this footage was filmed in 1983. Los Carniceros del Norte recorded a tribute EP to Paralisis Permanente in 2011)
8. On the recent video for All
Tomorrow’s Parties, one of TCS’ quarantine covers, you had the video of
goths dancing to Killing Joke at a club in West Yorkshire in 1984 on in the
background. Are you a big student of goth history?
Hugo Zombie: I’m interested in the history of music, I enjoy reading books
about artist/bands that I like and had interesting lives, but I wouldn’t
consider myself a big student. The idea about that video [All Tomorrow's Parties] was to somewhat make
it look like we were having a party ourselves, so I got some beers and choose
this select audience for my interpretation. Then it turns out that the TV is
not as big as I thought and I’m covering most of it, so I’m very surprised (and
glad) that you recognized the video.
9. I have to ask you about
your cat, who was the unexpected star of Then Comes Silence’s quarantine cover
of Siouxsie and the Banshees’ Christine, running up the wall at one
point. Can you tell me a bit about him/her?
Hugo Zombie: Sure, she’s Pixi, one of my cats. My girlfriend and I adopted
her and her sister, a beautiful tortie called Zombita, 7 years ago. They’re our
children and they made it all the way from Spain to Sweden too. Pixi, the cat
that you see in the video, she’s some kind of diva / movie star, she poses in
front of the camera and she likes to be the centre of attention all the time.
So, as it had to be, she found her way to make it into the video and be the
star of the Gothicat Festival.
10. If Alex asked you to suggest
a Los Carniceros del Norte song for Then Comes Silence to cover, which one would you choose
and why?
Hugo Zombie: I don’t think that’s very likely to happen, and I don’t think
that it would be very suitable either, but if I’m forced to choose one it would
be Las tres Caras del Miedo, because it’s more goth rock oriented than most of
LCDN’s discography, it’s one of my favourites and we never played it live. Then Comes Silence recordings and merchandise are available here.